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                        <title>RE: PGE&#039;s Oak Grove Hydroelectric Project</title>
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                        <pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2020 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<img data-upload="1" data-width="897" data-height="403" title="Oak-Grove-Power-Project-On-Clackamas-River.jpg" alt="Oak-Grove-Power-Project-On-Clackamas-River.jpg" src="https://www.trailadvocate.org/wp-content/forum-image-uploads/kirk/2020/04/Oak-Grove-Power-Project-On-Clackamas-River.jpg" />

 

https://books.google.com/books?id=ubbmAAAAMAAJ&amp;pg=RA4-PA333&amp;lpg=RA4-PA333&amp;dq=oak+grove+fork+flume&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=fsD5MCu9zZ&amp;sig=ACfU3U1H0_uKbqmm4xcPDi_xL7qrdMOkUQ&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwijxODfsd3oAhUnFzQIHaQkAJ0Q6AEwBXoECAsQLg]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://www.trailadvocate.org/community/historical-items-of-interest/">Historical Items of interest</category>                        <dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: PGE&#039;s Oak Grove Hydroelectric Project</title>
                        <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/community/historical-items-of-interest/pges-oak-grove-hydroelectric-project/paged/8/#post-5109</link>
                        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks D.,  I wasn&#039;t sure if that second letter on the pole tag was an N or a W.  I&#039;m going with N now that you&#039;ve found that the company name PNPSCO was active during that time frame.

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                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks D.,  I wasn't sure if that second letter on the pole tag was an N or a W.  I'm going with N now that you've found that the company name PNPSCO was active during that time frame.

I'll have to check out that book, it sounds interesting.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: PGE&#039;s Oak Grove Hydroelectric Project</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 19:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Kirk, it probably says PNWPSCO, for Pacific Northwest Public Services Company, one of PGE&#039;s many company names (1930-32).  Apparently it was a holding company, with PGE as its electrical sub...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Kirk, it probably says PNWPSCO, for Pacific Northwest Public Services Company, one of PGE's many company names (1930-32).  Apparently it was a holding company, with PGE as its electrical subsidiary.  See <a href="http://www.iinet.com/~retireeski/history.htm" target="_blank" rel="noopener">http://www.iinet.com/~retireeski/history.htm</a> 

A detailed history of PGE written by a former PGE manager is available at the Estacada library.  It's the only copy I know of, and is the source of the "Clackamas River Basin Development" chapter that's posted on this website.  Another source for PGE's corporate history is the book "Electrifying Eden" by Craig Wollner, also available through the library.

 

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						                            <category domain="https://www.trailadvocate.org/community/historical-items-of-interest/">Historical Items of interest</category>                        <dc:creator>Doug Firman</dc:creator>
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                        <title>RE: PGE&#039;s Oak Grove Hydroelectric Project</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 19:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks for the pictures Steve.  I think the initials at the top of that pole tag are PWPSCO.  I&#039;m trying to figure out what they stand for.  Maybe Portland Willamette Power &amp; Steam Compa...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks for the pictures Steve.  I think the initials at the top of that pole tag are PWPSCO.  I'm trying to figure out what they stand for.  Maybe Portland Willamette Power &amp; Steam Company?  It must be one of the names PGE went by before 1948 (from Wikipedia:  "The company name became Portland Electric Power Company (PEPCO) in 1932. It was reorganized in 1948 as PGE.").

Does anyone know?

Is the rest of that PGE history available online anywhere?  https://www.trailadvocate.org/scans/PGEHistoryClackamasRiver.pdf

That link for the video doesn't work any longer.  :(]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://www.trailadvocate.org/community/historical-items-of-interest/">Historical Items of interest</category>                        <dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 16:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[We went out there a few years ago to search out the tunnel and hiked down from the road. It&#039;s filled in at the lake, but there are still cart tracks and ventilation pipes there. If you stand...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[We went out there a few years ago to search out the tunnel and hiked down from the road. It's filled in at the lake, but there are still cart tracks and ventilation pipes there. If you stand on the fish platform, there is a concrete block on the other side of the lake. It has an ore cart track going into the lake. 4th pic is of a pole we found on the hillside above the lake.<img data-upload="1" data-width="960" data-height="720" title="vent.jpg" alt="vent.jpg" src="https://www.trailadvocate.org/wp-content/forum-image-uploads/steve/2020/03/vent.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="960" data-height="720" title="rail2.jpg" alt="rail2.jpg" src="https://www.trailadvocate.org/wp-content/forum-image-uploads/steve/2020/03/rail2.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="720" data-height="960" title="rail.jpg" alt="rail.jpg" src="https://www.trailadvocate.org/wp-content/forum-image-uploads/steve/2020/03/rail.jpg" /><img data-upload="1" data-width="960" data-height="720" title="pole.jpg" alt="pole.jpg" src="https://www.trailadvocate.org/wp-content/forum-image-uploads/steve/2020/03/pole.jpg" />]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://www.trailadvocate.org/community/historical-items-of-interest/">Historical Items of interest</category>                        <dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 15:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[There&#039;s also a bit of info about Davis Ranch of page 64 of the book &quot;Estacada.&quot;  Doesn&#039;t give it&#039;s precise location, saying that it was a 160-acre homestead located between Three Lynx and Au...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[There's also a bit of info about Davis Ranch of page 64 of the book "<a href="https://books.google.com/books?id=qTScHF50saYC&amp;pg=PA67&amp;lpg=PA67&amp;dq=davis+ranch+clackamas+oregon&amp;source=bl&amp;ots=V_Hre4kygV&amp;sig=ACfU3U277qeZQAIpBO7ovboo4O0dD3rkww&amp;hl=en&amp;sa=X&amp;ved=2ahUKEwipm7fe8_znAhUInZ4KHe49DUE4ChDoATAJegQICRAB#v=onepage&amp;q=davis%20ranch%20clackamas%20oregon&amp;f=false" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Estacada</a>."  Doesn't give it's precise location, saying that it was a 160-acre homestead located between Three Lynx and Austin Hot Springs.  Chapter Four, "We Have Power," starting on page 49, has some interesting photos of the development of power projects on the Clackamas. ]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 07:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Doug Firman said 
Rob, you should take a look at the history of PGE on the Clackamas.  Most of your questions are answered there.  It mentions Davis Ranch, the general locations of several w...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="spPostEmbedQuote"><strong>Doug Firman said </strong>
Rob, you should take a look at the history of <a href="https://www.trailadvocate.org/scans/PGEHistoryClackamasRiver.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">PGE on the Clackamas.</a>  Most of your questions are answered there.  It mentions Davis Ranch, the general locations of several work camps (no maps), and the North Fork project.  It says that exploratory work for the North Fork project, above Cazadero, began in 1906 but was not actually constructed until the 1950s.  Those guys were busy all up and down the Clackamas a hundred years ago, from Estacada to Big Bottom to Timothy Meadows!  Those OHS photos are a great addition to the narrative.  </blockquote>
Thanks, Doug.  Sometimes I should probably think more before I post.  :)  Obviously when they are taking North Fork, they are talking the North Fork Reservoir.  I was just thinking about the Oak Grove project only.  Thanks for the reminder on that document, I had forgotten about it.  It is very good.  I will digest it more thoroughly.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://www.trailadvocate.org/community/historical-items-of-interest/">Historical Items of interest</category>                        <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2020 22:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Rob, you should take a look at the history of PGE on the Clackamas.  Most of your questions are answered there.  It mentions Davis Ranch, the general locations of several work camps (no maps...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Rob, you should take a look at the history of <a href="https://www.trailadvocate.org/scans/PGEHistoryClackamasRiver.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener">PGE on the Clackamas.</a>  Most of your questions are answered there.  It mentions Davis Ranch, the general locations of several work camps (no maps), and the North Fork project.  It says that exploratory work for the North Fork project, above Cazadero, began in 1906 but was not actually constructed until the 1950s.  Those guys were busy all up and down the Clackamas a hundred years ago, from Estacada to Big Bottom to Timothy Meadows!  Those OHS photos are a great addition to the narrative.]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://www.trailadvocate.org/community/historical-items-of-interest/">Historical Items of interest</category>                        <dc:creator>Doug Firman</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2020 16:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Thanks Dave - I hadn&#039;t thought about looking at the old maps.  That still looks like that area is privately owned - the current maps still show an in holding there.

I also noticed on a di...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Thanks Dave - I hadn't thought about looking at the old maps.  That still looks like that area is privately owned - the current maps still show an in holding there.

I also noticed on a different 1916 map, they show "Intake" where Harriet Lake is:

<img data-upload="1" data-width="1316" data-height="769" title="1916MapSnippet.jpg" alt="1916MapSnippet.jpg" src="https://www.trailadvocate.org/wp-content/forum-image-uploads/williamsccwebsternet/2020/03/1916MapSnippet.jpg" />

All the maps I see show the Oak Grove Fork as the Oak Grove Fork - so I'm still curious what fork they are talking about when they say the "North Fork"]]></content:encoded>
						                            <category domain="https://www.trailadvocate.org/community/historical-items-of-interest/">Historical Items of interest</category>                        <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2020 11:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Davis Ranch and Oak Grove Ranger Station were two different places, according to the 1916 USGS Estacada map:



That&#039;s all I know about it.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Davis Ranch and Oak Grove Ranger Station were two different places, according to the 1916 USGS Estacada map:

<img data-upload="1" data-width="624" data-height="525" title="Davis-Ranch-1916-USGS.jpg" alt="Davis-Ranch-1916-USGS.jpg" src="https://www.trailadvocate.org/wp-content/forum-image-uploads/daveinredlandyahoocom/2020/03/Davis-Ranch-1916-USGS.jpg" />

That's all I know about it.]]></content:encoded>
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