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                        <title>RE: The elusive 511 trail has been found</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2014 09:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[kirk said 
 
 I wonder, why the difference?  Perhaps they were connecting to an existing trail, or maybe someone decided that they only had resources to build that much trail that year?
 May...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><strong>kirk said </strong>
 
 I wonder, why the difference?  Perhaps they were connecting to an existing trail, or maybe someone decided that they only had resources to build that much trail that year?
 Maybe the trail ends at 3 miles.</blockquote>
 Hopefully we will find out the answer soon.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: The elusive 511 trail has been found</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2014 07:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Rob Williams said 
The book says it was 10 men plus a cook.  And the book says there was only 3 miles of trail to build, but by my calculation it is about 5 miles from Frazier Turnaround to ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><strong>Rob Williams said </strong>
The book says it was 10 men plus a cook.  And the book says there was only 3 miles of trail to build, but by my calculation it is about 5 miles from Frazier Turnaround to the Roaring River.</blockquote>
I wonder, why the difference?  Perhaps they were connecting to an existing trail, or maybe someone decided that they only had resources to build that much trail that year?

Maybe the trail ends at 3 miles.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: The elusive 511 trail has been found</title>
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                        <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2014 05:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[The book says it was 10 men plus a cook.  And the book says there was only 3 miles of trail to build, but by my calculation it is about 5 miles from Frazier Turnaround to the Roaring River.]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[The book says it was 10 men plus a cook.  And the book says there was only 3 miles of trail to build, but by my calculation it is about 5 miles from Frazier Turnaround to the Roaring River.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: The elusive 511 trail has been found</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2014 20:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[I was really impressed by the trail where it goes through the rock fields.  The tread must be at least four feet wide.  Those trail builders literally moved hundreds of tons of rocks to buil...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[I was really impressed by the trail where it goes through the rock fields.  The tread must be at least four feet wide.  Those trail builders literally moved hundreds of tons of rocks to build this trail.

 

For those of you who've read the account of the building of this trail, do you recall if it was mentioned how big of a trail construction crew they had?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: The elusive 511 trail has been found</title>
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                        <pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2014 02:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Great job guys. You beat me to that one! I knew that trail had to be there, just don&#039;t get out to Frazier that often these days. Cheers!]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Great job guys. You beat me to that one! I knew that trail had to be there, just don't get out to Frazier that often these days. Cheers!]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: The elusive 511 trail has been found</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2014 19:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Rob Williams said 
 Paul:

I took a look at your posting on PH from 2009 (almost exactly 5 years ago - wow!), and looking at your track and our track, it looks like we were on the same tra...]]></description>
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<strong>Rob Williams said </strong>
 Paul:

I took a look at your posting on PH from 2009 (almost exactly 5 years ago - wow!), and looking at your track and our track, it looks like we were on the same trajectory until about the top of that un-named creek that feeds into the south fork - I think that is just about the location of that spring (Big Blaze spring).  It looks like you headed down that creek, while we continued more or less along the contour line.

Just curious - did you see that spring with the big blaze?

</blockquote>
Rob,

Yes, the upper part is easy to locate but I just lost it at that point and figured the trail would be near the creek based on the maps. I don't recall the spring with the big blaze, might look at my photos.

I'm looking forward to another visit to this place with y'all. One of the greatest finds ever.

--Paul]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: The elusive 511 trail has been found</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Paul:

I took a look at your posting on PH from 2009 (almost exactly 5 years ago - wow!), and looking at your track and our track, it looks like we were on the same trajectory until about ...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[Paul:

I took a look at your posting on PH from 2009 (almost exactly 5 years ago - wow!), and looking at your track and our track, it looks like we were on the same trajectory until about the top of that un-named creek that feeds into the south fork - I think that is just about the location of that spring (Big Blaze spring).  It looks like you headed down that creek, while we continued more or less along the contour line.

Just curious - did you see that spring with the big blaze?]]></content:encoded>
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                        <title>RE: The elusive 511 trail has been found</title>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[While looking thru my photos, I ended up finding evidence on the google earth aerial photos of the tread thru one of the rockslides - the one rockslide where it was clear all the way across:...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[While looking thru my photos, I ended up finding evidence on the google earth aerial photos of the tread thru one of the rockslides - the one rockslide where it was clear all the way across:

http://www.mappingsupport.com/p/gmap4.php?ll=45.158876,-121.978982&amp;z=20&amp;t=s

I copied the screen and added green dots showing where the tread crosses that rockslide:

<img title="SouthForkTrailGoogleAerial.jpg" alt="SouthForkTrailGoogleAerial.jpg" src="https://www.trailadvocate.org/wp-content/forum-image-uploads/williamsccwebsternet/2014/08/SouthForkTrailGoogleAerial.jpg" width="819" height="587" />]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[If the weather is nice, it would be a BEAUTIFUL trail - the views from the rockslides would be tremendous - not peak views, but great views of the South Fork Drainage.  The route through the...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[If the weather is nice, it would be a BEAUTIFUL trail - the views from the rockslides would be tremendous - not peak views, but great views of the South Fork Drainage.  The route through the timber is nice as well - a lot more big trees than I thought there would be.

Next time we will make the horrible trek down the Frazier road to cut 3-4 miles off the trip.  I read your trip report from several years ago, and you said the same thing.  We could have used the additional time to explore the trail further.  But we found enough to make it worth going back for.  I will let you know when we plan on another trip.  I'm hoping we can do another one this year.]]></content:encoded>
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                        <pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2014 11:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
                        <description><![CDATA[Rob Williams said 
It definitely was a most excellent outing!  A very WET outing, but excellent.
 
 I think (but we will find out later) that the trail slowly makes its way down to the river...]]></description>
                        <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><strong>Rob Williams said </strong>
It definitely was a most excellent outing!  A very WET outing, but excellent.
 
 I think (but we will find out later) that the trail slowly makes its way down to the river - at least that is how the path appears to be headed.  What would be even more amazing is if this trail were accessible all the way to the roaring river.  According to the old maps (which were wrong on its initial location), it is supposed to meet up with Corral Springs across the river.  Wouldn't that be cool if you could take this down and then go across to Corral Springs on the other side?
 
 OK, so I'm a dreamer... But this trail definitely deserves more exploration.</blockquote>
That would be a nice trail to have available for a loop with Grouse Point. I'm really curious about the Corral Springs connection. If there's room, invite me along next time now that I'm a believer.

--Paul]]></content:encoded>
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