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Photos and videos from inside the burn area
Rob Williams
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10/16/2020 - 8:33 pm
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Doug Firman said
Here are a couple of photos which ODOT says were taken along Hwy 224.  They didn't say exactly where.

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It kind of looks like that second one could have been taken from that Lazy Bend work area (which I think burned up) - it was kind of up on a hill above 224 a bit.

That is kind of what I expected to see a lot of - total burnage - nothing left - there will be white forests in a few years (assuming they don't salvage log them).  These photos had to be in a high severity burn area.

I looked on tripcheck.com tonight where I saw these photos, but I also found this comment in the road 46 closure (last sentence emphasis mine):

Forest Service Road 46 is closed from Ripplebrook to Detroit due to fire damage, tree damage and possible slides. This is expected to be a long-term closure.

I wonder what "long term" means? Like the Memaloose road "long term" (years)? That would close off a HUGE chunk of the forest long term.

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I looked on tripcheck.com tonight where I saw these photos, but I also found this comment in the road 46 closure (last sentence emphasis mine):

Forest Service Road 46 is closed from Ripplebrook to Detroit due to fire damage, tree damage and possible slides. This is expected to be a long-term closure.

I wonder what "long term" means? Like the Memaloose road "long term" (years)? That would close off a HUGE chunk of the forest long term.

Maybe there is hope.  This was posted on the Riverside Facebook page today:

Planning for hazard tree mitigation along roads maintained by the Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management is being finalized and should begin next week. 

Road 46 is a primary road for access to a big part of the forest from both the north and south, so it would seem like clearing it would be a priority.  Let's hope so anyway.

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Doug Firman said

I looked on tripcheck.com tonight where I saw these photos, but I also found this comment in the road 46 closure (last sentence emphasis mine):

Forest Service Road 46 is closed from Ripplebrook to Detroit due to fire damage, tree damage and possible slides. This is expected to be a long-term closure.

I wonder what "long term" means? Like the Memaloose road "long term" (years)? That would close off a HUGE chunk of the forest long term.

Maybe there is hope.  This was posted on the Riverside Facebook page today:

Planning for hazard tree mitigation along roads maintained by the Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management is being finalized and should begin next week. 

Road 46 is a primary road for access to a big part of the forest from both the north and south, so it would seem like clearing it would be a priority.  Let's hope so anyway.  

I wouldn't even mind if they opened it and said "you have to clear the road yourself if you find any down trees"  🙂  I know they would never do that, though.

I would imagine some of the smaller roads and spurs might need some clearing to get down them - just like most winters.  But until 224 and 46 is reopened, there are a LOT of trails that cannot be accessed at all.  If my quick counting is correct, even if they opened 224, 48 trails would be completly inaccessible if they kept 46 closed.  That statement you found gives me some hope - I have a whole list of trails I want to go explore to see how hard they got hit by the fire.  I was hoping to see at least a few of them before the snow flies this year.

I did notice that there are almost no firefighters assigned to the fire now.  It is down to only 24 people - from a peak of over 1,000.  I think it is being managed by local people now.  So any work they were doing is now done it appears.

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In this video from ODOT, he says it won't be safe for "several months,  ...minimum" for the public to be on 224. cry

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I was hoping, but am not surprised by the comment.  Looks like next year at the earliest to check things out.

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Log deck at the old weigh station on 224:

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Looking near Memaloose Bridge:

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Removing debris from 224:

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Not sure where these are - they almost look to me like the old road near Fish Creek (which has been abandoned for years):

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I think that's the 45 road just above the gated bridge.

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kirk said
I think that's the 45 road just above the gated bridge.  

Now that you say that, I can see it.  Although I'm not sure that is a fair representation since that road had debris on it from the 36 pit fire.  I don't think they ever repaired it.  That road sure isn't opening any time soon!

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Looks like the sign survived but the trees in the campground didn't.

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I guess some of you found this album - I just poked thru it today and found a few more photos.  Here is the album if you want to look at it - it contains pictures from all over Oregon:

 First, near Timber Lake:

Timber Lake

Next, a sign near Fish Creek Campground:

Fish Creek Campground

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I saw this posting today - a more complete BAER (Burned Area Emergency Response) report:

https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/photos/ORUPF/2020-09-27-1710-Western-Oregon-USFS-BAER/related_files/pict20201009-124300-0.pdf?fbclid=IwAR1YaoDS5QuU_T6dNsA0zkdU9caSAMgNDkU7pqSigh9_PQoI-jREbMBWun4

According to the document, the following structures burned:

  • Lazy Bend site completely burned
  • Multiple facilities at Timber Lake Job Corps burned
  • Multiple facilities at the Riipplebrook Maintenance Yard burned
  • 9 Residences and an outbuilding burned in the Ripplebrook residential area
  • Six structures and the hay barn at Oak Grove Work Center burned

There is lots of other interesting info in the document - Not all of it I understood, but it was interesting reading.

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I saw that the FS has posted a Flickr album with photos from the fire.  There are some new ones in there that I had not seen before.

Link to Flickr Album

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FYI, that Flickr album has been updated with better descriptions on the photos as well.  That one of the electric tower says it probably broke due to a falling tree (not heat).

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I wonder if they will correct the caption for the Fish Creek bridge photo.  It looks to me like the Road 45/Memaloose bridge.  Fish Creek Bridge after Riverside Fire

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