If anyone is thinking of going up the Clackamas River Canyon, please be aware that there is an active fire (started sometime today) at around milepost 36 near an old quarry. We got stuck on the way home from a hike at Olallie Lake - they were flying a helicopter over to do water drops and they wouldn't let any traffic go under it. The fire looked pretty significant unfortunately. Hopefully they can get it under control soon. There was lots of help there. It had to have started sometime today because there was no sign of smoke when we went down.
Well that pretty much puts to rest any possibility of locating the Moore Creek trail. I had located the bottom and top segments, but the logging in the middle area had kept me from locating much of any tread. After locating a marijuana grow area next to Moore Creek a few years back and the unrelenting shooting from the quarry below, I hadn't been back.
The sunlight this morning in Oregon City was very orange and there was some ash on our cars. It must be an intense fire to be throwing ash that high.
Here's a news flash from the Sheriff's office:
The fire is currently spreading and is over 1000 acres in size. Hwy 224 is now closed from North Fork Reservoir, east to Ripplebrook due to the fire and very hazardous conditions.
The Clackamas County Sheriff's Office is asking that the public avoid the area so fire crews can have clear roads for travel to fight the fire.
Please do not call 911 if you see smoke, however if you do see a fire or any other emergency, you are asked to call 911.
They've evacuated the Silver Fox RV Camp, and some of the folks saw the blaze crest the mountain and got out of there before the evacuation order was issued.
Substantial smoke in the Portland area - I can smell smoke but being down on the river I can't really see it like in some of the news photos. Rob's photos are better than the ones in the news.
The road is closed indefinitely. You don't want water dropping on your car from a few hundred feet!
They are upgrading the response to Type II tonight or first thing tomorrow.
The detour is either up the rough road from Salem or over Mount Hood and down past Little Crater Lake and Timothy. The route past Clackamas Lake puts you on the scenic route to Olallie.
Here is the Inciweb site for this fire: inciweb.nwcg.gov
Since 224 is closed now, I'm not sure we will know how far it burned until the inciweb site gets a map on it. Since 224 is closed at MP 31 (I think that is past North Fork), I think that stuff is safe for the time being, but I could be way wrong.
I was waiting for an update on the inciweb page, but haven't seen one yet. Last update was from yesterday afternoon. Since it got upgraded to a level 2 response, I would expect updates would be coming at least daily for a while.
Rob Williams said
Where did you find that map? That is scary - it jumped the river. That area is going to look very different when we can get back in there.
It's at this website:
They just updated the map this morning with the "36 Pit" fire perimeter. I think they use infrared satellite imagery to generate the fire perimeter overlay.
I've been watching the inciweb site for updates, but nothing as of yet, and I don't see any maps posted to that site. I did find an update on a news site that said the fire is now 2300 acres and growing:
I guess it crossed the river last night. This is going to be really bad....It has engulfed part of the 45 road and is getting close to all the stuff at North Fork/Promontory. It is going to be a surreal scene whenever we can get back up there.
I have a feeling we haven't seen the beginning of this one. I think it is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but it seems to be completely out of control right now.
It is going to be very surreal once we can get back in there - but I think that might not happen for a while.
Agreed that this has the potential to be really bad but all we city folks can do is watch.
There are three weather issues that could or will change fire behavior.
There is a some chance of dry lightning tonight. The further east the more likely but any new fires will be a major issue if they occur.
There is a 20-40% chance of light rain starting Wednesday. It may be spotty and too light to do more than slow the fire. Back to dry and sunny by the weekend.
Wind will shift to S-SW, encouraging fire spread in a broad and uncertain arc from perhaps the Nudist Camp to Salmon-Huck Wilderness and Roaring River. There are some roads that direction to fight the fire from. Winds diverted by topography to follow the Clackamas could encourage spread upstream. Spread towards Hillockburn and Estacada will be limited by this compared to previous spread by east winds.
They've closed Roads 45 & 46. They are sending campers stuck upstream out 57 or 42 to Hwy. 26.
Some news photos show ground fire under large firs (KPTV) and hopefully this will be the case in the remnant old growth along the river. Pray the big old ones survive.
It just took be half an hour to get the inciweb site for this fire. Its getting overloaded thats for sure, but there is a nice new report and a map. Be sure to remember these outline maps include sometimes large unburned areas.
Here's an interesting map I found. It shows different levels of heat in the fire area. It's kind of grainy, but I guess it takes up less memory that way. I found it at: http://www.nwccinfo.blogspot.com/
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