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  <title>Site upgrades</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=776#tf-post-6583</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[I have just completed moving the website to a new server.  I think everything is working well, but if you see anything not working, please send an email to webmaster@trailadvocate.org.The site should be more reliable and considerably snappier.]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just completed moving the website to a new server.  I think everything is working well, but if you see anything not working, please send an email to webmaster@trailadvocate.org.</p>
<p>The site should be more reliable and considerably snappier.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
  <category>Site Comments and Information</category>
  <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2026 17:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>New Fires</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=775#tf-post-6582</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[There have been 3 new fires in the last 2 days:Narrows fire - this is along highway 224 near Three Lynx - it sounds like this is mostly under control at this pointMitchell Fire - this is north of Hideaway…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been 3 new fires in the last 2 days:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="https://app.watchduty.org/i/113647" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Narrows fire</a> - this is along highway 224 near Three Lynx - it sounds like this is mostly under control at this point</li>
<li><a href="https://app.watchduty.org/i/113863" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Mitchell Fire</a> - this is north of Hideaway like - it is currently at 5 acres </li>
<li><a href="https://app.watchduty.org/i/113822" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Austin Fire</a> - this is near Austin Hot Springs and looks very bad - it is currently 30 acres and growing rapidly.  It looks like what I remember the 36 pit fire looked like when it started.</li>
</ul>
<p>This was what the Austin fire looked like today from the camera on Oak Grove Butte:</p>
<figure class="tf-img-figure"><img style="max-width: 100%" src="https://new.trailadvocate.org/wp-content/uploads/trail-forum/2026/08/AustinFire-2026-08-09.webp" alt="" /></figure>
<p>There are now cameras on Oak Grove Butte, Whalehead and Memaloose to help detect fires.</p>
<p>Here is the link to the one on Oak Grove Butte - you can see the Austin, Mitchell and Grashopper fires from that camera.</p>
<p>Please, please, please do not start any campfires and be careful out there!</p>
<p> </p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>Current Conditions</category>
  <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2026 17:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Bull of the Woods Trail - 550</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=774#tf-post-6581</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[Thanks Rob! This is very helpful. I’ll be sure to post a trip report here after my hike.]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Rob! This is very helpful. I’ll be sure to post a trip report here after my hike.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Ryan Sexton</dc:creator>
  <category>General</category>
  <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 08:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Bull of the Woods Trail - 550</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=774#tf-post-6580</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[I have not been on it this year, but I hiked it last year and it was in decent shape.&nbsp; Some logs down in the burned areas but the route was not too hard to follow.&nbsp; I would expect more…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not been on it this year, but I hiked it last year and it was in decent shape.&nbsp; Some logs down in the burned areas but the route was not too hard to follow.&nbsp; I would expect more downed logs since last winter was a pretty rough winter for downed logs, especially in the burned areas, but otherwise it shouldn't be too bad I would expect.</p>
<p>The other area that might be a bit overgrown is the area around Terrace spring - it had a bunch of thimbleberry that has kind of exploded since the fire - but you should be able to get thru it.</p>
<p>FYI, there isn't much to see of the old lookout - burned legs and a bunch of burned metal really.</p>
<p>Here is a link to pictures from that hike last year:</p>
<p><a href="https://rwphotos.smugmug.com/Hikes/2025/Bull-of-the-Woods" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Bull of the Woods Hike - 7/31/2025</a></p>
<p>If you do end up hiking it, post a trip report here.&nbsp; There is a link at the bottom of the trail page where you can post a trip report with pictures - <a href="../trails/550-2/">Trail page</a></p>
<p>One thing to be aware of though - the road to the trailhead had a few semi washed out areas that might be difficult for a car to get thru.&nbsp; I would expect it got worse after last winters storms as well.&nbsp; If you have something with a bit higher clearance it will probably be OK.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>General</category>
  <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2026 07:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Bull of the Woods Trail - 550</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=774#tf-post-6579</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[Looking for a recent trail condition report for Bull of the Woods #550. Hoping to hike to the site of the old lookout. Is the trail in passable condition?]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking for a recent trail condition report for Bull of the Woods #550. Hoping to hike to the site of the old lookout. Is the trail in passable condition?</p>
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  <dc:creator>Ryan Sexton</dc:creator>
  <category>General</category>
  <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2026 08:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>More rock work on highway 224</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=508#tf-post-6578</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[FYI, the recent work seems to have completed.  All the equipment has been removed as well as the signs.]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, the recent work seems to have completed.  All the equipment has been removed as well as the signs.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
  <category>Current Conditions</category>
  <pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2026 07:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Historical Information Updated functionality</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=773#tf-post-6577</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[I've spent quite a bit of time working on trying to make the historical information more searchable.  I've used AI to scan and convert several of the documents to text format which is now searchable.  I've also created a chatbot/search…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've spent quite a bit of time working on trying to make the historical information more searchable.  I've used AI to scan and convert several of the documents to text format which is now searchable.  I've also created a chatbot/search function which will search thru historical items (including scanned text where available), forum postings, trail info and what maps might cover the area you are looking at (if it is a map related question).</p>
<p>Additionally, all the old forum postings from the very first forum have now been added to the current forum under the Archive topic, so those old postings are now also searchable.</p>
<p>To access the new comprehensive search tool, you can go here: <a href="https://www.trailadvocate.org/chatbot/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Search Tool</a></p>
<p>If you are logged in, it will take you to a chatbot interface that will do the searching.  If you are not logged in, it will take you to a generic search tool.  Note that since the chatbot incurs additional cost, it might get taken down or stop working if it runs out of money.</p>
<p>The other cool new functionality is that for some of the scanned documents (the ones that got transcribed via AI), it shows the scanned document on the left side of the screen and the transcribed document on the right side of the screen.  This is particularly helpful for some of the handwritten documents which were hard to read.  The AI transcription, while not perfect is really good.  Here is an example:</p>
<p>https://www.trailadvocate.org/document-transcript/?doc=13</p>
<p>Only select documents that were transcribed with AI will have this side by side functionality.  The rest of the documents will display like they always have.</p>
<p>As always, if you have questions or issues with any of this new functionality, or find mistakes, feel free to send an email to webmaster@trailadvocate.org.  If there are other documents you think would benefit from being transcribed, you can send those along as well.  The real benefit of the transcription is twofold:</p>
<ol>
<li>It can make difficult to read scans a lot easier to read</li>
<li>It allows the content to be searched</li>
</ol>
<p> </p>
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  <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
  <category>Site Comments and Information</category>
  <pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2026 07:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Lost Hiker/Camper - Rock Lakes area - info</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=101#tf-post-5419</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[If you have an hour of free time: https://youtu.be/Ku3-TSnt6BE?si=FMRjJTTFz1bIlsRb]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you have an hour of free time:</p>
<p>https://youtu.be/Ku3-TSnt6BE?si=FMRjJTTFz1bIlsRb</p>
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  <dc:creator>Kirk</dc:creator>
  <category>Trip Reports</category>
  <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2026 09:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>More rock work on highway 224</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=508#tf-post-5418</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[Another update - they have started doing more work in the same area - expect delays if traveling thru there during weekdays.]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another update - they have started doing more work in the same area - expect delays if traveling thru there during weekdays.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
  <category>Current Conditions</category>
  <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2026 10:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Newly abandoned trails?</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=504#tf-post-5417</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[Kind of weird but a couple more trickled in over the last month and a half:Anvil LakeMon-Olallie Lake (Monolallie Lake)That still leaves these trails official status as "unknown" at this point:Burnt GraniteCottonwood MeadowsCripple CreekDouble PeaksGibson LakeHawk MountainHorseshoe SaddleMt LoweRuss Lake😡]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of weird but a couple more trickled in over the last month and a half:</p>
<ul>
<li>Anvil Lake</li>
<li>Mon-Olallie Lake (Monolallie Lake)</li>
</ul>
<p>That still leaves these trails official status as "unknown" at this point:</p>
<ul>
<li>Burnt Granite</li>
<li>Cottonwood Meadows</li>
<li>Cripple Creek</li>
<li>Double Peaks</li>
<li>Gibson Lake</li>
<li>Hawk Mountain</li>
<li>Horseshoe Saddle</li>
<li>Mt Lowe</li>
<li>Russ Lake</li>
</ul>
<p>😡</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>Lost or Abandoned Trails</category>
  <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2026 14:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>More site updates</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=514#tf-post-5414</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[The following updates have occurred on the site:The map selector (showing what maps cover a given area) and the map scans/PDFs have been combined into one (hopefully) more useful page now.  The Historical Items page has been updated to hopefully make…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following updates have occurred on the site:</p>
<ul>
<li>The map selector (showing what maps cover a given area) and the map scans/PDFs have been combined into one (hopefully) more useful page now.  </li>
<li>The Historical Items page has been updated to hopefully make it easier to navigate</li>
<li>Several minor updates to the look and feel to make things more consistent</li>
</ul>
<p>Hopefully people find them useful.</p>
<p>As always, if you find issues or problems, please send an email to webmaster@trailadvocate.org</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>Site Comments and Information</category>
  <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 06:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>What is the coolest or most interesting piece of history you&#039;ve stumbled upon on a trail?</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=513#tf-post-5413</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=513#tf-post-5413</guid>
  <description><![CDATA[I thought I would test out the new poll feature of the new forum to see how it works.]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I would test out the new poll feature of the new forum to see how it works.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>General</category>
  <pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2026 08:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>New Forum Installed</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=512#tf-post-5412</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=512#tf-post-5412</guid>
  <description><![CDATA[For a long time, the existing forum has not served us very well.&nbsp; Today, I migrated to a new, custom built forum for this website.&nbsp; The intention was to simplify the forum and only add things that are actually used…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a long time, the existing forum has not served us very well.&nbsp; Today, I migrated to a new, custom built forum for this website.&nbsp; The intention was to simplify the forum and only add things that are actually used here.&nbsp; I hope it satisfies those goals.</p>
<p>All of the old posts were converted to the new forum, so no historical postings were lost.&nbsp; Some of the features of the new forum:</p>
<ul>
<li>Simplified editor</li>
<li>Ability to upload files to posts and place them inline - uploads are significantly faster as the images are automatically converted to a more efficient format before uploading</li>
<li>Ability to upload a gpx/kml file into a post - a map will the track will display at the bottom of the post</li>
<li>Ability to add emojis to posts</li>
<li>Ability to add reactions (like, sad, mad, etc) to posts</li>
<li>Simplified private messages</li>
<li>Ability to taq posts with custom tags to make searching easier</li>
<li>Ability to mention someone and they will get notified (@Username) - this feature isn't working as well as I'd like - I'm not sure how much it will get used - it may get removed at some point if it continues to be problematic.</li>
<li>Ability to bookmark posts to come back to them easily in the future</li>
<li>New Feature - Ability to add interactive polls</li>
<li>Ability to subscribe to topic and categories so you can be notified when new postings occur</li>
<li>Ability to report posts (spam, questionable content, etc).</li>
<li>Ability to preview messages before posting.</li>
</ul>
<p>Again, the purpose of this was to remove features that didn't seem useful in order to make the forum easier to use and to add a few features that would be useful (polls, track display in a post, private messages).</p>
<p>If you just want to experiment with the new forum to see how it works, there is a Test Forum available (only visible when you are logged in).&nbsp; Feel free to post whatever in that forum.&nbsp; At some point I will remove it.</p>
<p>If you have problems, questions or issues with the new forum, please either post a message or send a message to webmaster@trailadvocate.org.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
  <category>Site Comments and Information</category>
  <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 09:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>More rock work on highway 224</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=508#tf-post-5411</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[FYI, if anyone is interested - this work has been completed and 224 currently has no work areas.]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, if anyone is interested - this work has been completed and 224 currently has no work areas.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Admin</dc:creator>
  <category>Current Conditions</category>
  <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2026 09:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Newly abandoned trails?</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=504#tf-post-5391</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[I checked out the website today and they have also added the following: Rho Creek Top Lake Maybe it is just taking them exceedingly long to add all the lesser used trails, or maybe someone told them they were missing.]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked out the website today and they have also added the following:</p>
<ul>
<li>Rho Creek</li>
<li>Top Lake</li>
</ul>
<p>Maybe it is just taking them exceedingly long to add all the lesser used trails, or maybe someone told them they were missing.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>Lost or Abandoned Trails</category>
  <pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2026 22:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Site Refresh</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=509#tf-post-5396</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=509#tf-post-5396</guid>
  <description><![CDATA[As you might have noticed, the site has undergone a refresh.  Most of the content is the same, however some has been reformatted for (hopefully) easier consumption.  The trails page now utilizes the hike finder feature, showing all the trails…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you might have noticed, the site has undergone a refresh.  Most of the content is the same, however some has been reformatted for (hopefully) easier consumption.  The trails page now utilizes the hike finder feature, showing all the trails when the page loads, and the weather info page has been updated to make it easier and more useful.</p>
<p>If you find anything that is broken or suggestions for improvements, please send them to webmaster@trailadvocate.org.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>Site Comments and Information</category>
  <pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2026 00:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>More rock work on highway 224</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=508#tf-post-5395</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=508#tf-post-5395</guid>
  <description><![CDATA[If anyone is planning to head up 224 during the week, just be aware they are doing more rockfall remediation work for the next 8 weeks or so.  Expect delays.  On the way in yesterday I had to wait about…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is planning to head up 224 during the week, just be aware they are doing more rockfall remediation work for the next 8 weeks or so.  Expect delays.  On the way in yesterday I had to wait about 15 minutes but on the way out I didn't have to wait much at all.  I talked with one of the flaggers and she said they would be working during the week (no weekend work) for about the next 8 weeks or so doing rock scaling, netting repair, etc.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>Current Conditions</category>
  <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 22:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Newly abandoned trails?</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=504#tf-post-5390</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=504#tf-post-5390</guid>
  <description><![CDATA[I took a look today at the FS Page and see 3 of the trails I listed earlier are now listed: Cache Meadow Corral Springs Huxley Lake I find is strange they've lumped everything "recreation" into one list.  They show…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a look today at the FS Page and see 3 of the trails I listed earlier are now listed:</p>
<ol>
<li>Cache Meadow</li>
<li>Corral Springs</li>
<li>Huxley Lake</li>
</ol>
<p>I find is strange they've lumped everything "recreation" into one list.  They show Campground, Trails, Trailheads, Horse Camps, snowparks, etc all int the same list.  It is also very inconsistent.  Some closed sites have a red "Site Closed" banner but places like Indian Henry do not - there is just a comment in the text that says it is closed.</p>
<p>I think it is a terrible design and incredibly unhelpful.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>Lost or Abandoned Trails</category>
  <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 06:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>PSA - Road 58 is closed until 4/1</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=507#tf-post-5394</link>
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  <description><![CDATA[Just a quick note to let people know the new gate at the junction of the 57 and 58 roads is closed.  There is a sign on it saying it will be closed when there is 12" of snow or…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quick note to let people know the new gate at the junction of the 57 and 58 roads is closed.  There is a sign on it saying it will be closed when there is 12" of snow or December 1st, whichever comes first.  It says it will reopen on 4/1.</p>
<p>Road 57 is also gated at the junction with 58 so it is a dead end until they reopen the gates.</p>
<p>The roads page on the Forest Service website is pretty unclear about it, so I thought I'd post this here since this appears to be a new seasonal closure that will be permanent.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>Current Conditions</category>
  <pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2025 18:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Site Updates</title>
  <link>https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=506#tf-post-5393</link>
  <guid isPermaLink="true">https://www.trailadvocate.org/forum/?tf_topic=506#tf-post-5393</guid>
  <description><![CDATA[My hosting provider is migrating a bunch of files to a new data center.  As a result, I had to change a bunch of links.  Most of the links were to the old historical maps but there are a sprinkling…]]></description>
  <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hosting provider is migrating a bunch of files to a new data center.  As a result, I had to change a bunch of links.  Most of the links were to the old historical maps but there are a sprinkling of other links that were affected.  I've tried to make sure all the links got updated.  The old links will stop working on 11/12, so I was trying to get ahead of it.</p>
<p>If you find any broken links, please send an email to webmaster@trailadvocate.org and let me know where the link was.</p>
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  <dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
  <category>Site Comments and Information</category>
  <pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2025 21:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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