Donovan said By the way, there is some potential for an old trail to get from there up to the Frazier road. The top of it is easy to find (at the dogleg in the road) but I never followed it out very far but always thought it might be useful find and enjoy.

Not that I need any more abandoned trails to find/explore, but that sounds kind of interesting.  So I'm assuming it heads from that dogleg (if it is the one I'm thinking about) east over to the lake?  It looks rather steep in there - if there is a real trail there must be switchbacks.

The last time I was on the Frazier road where that Pyramid Lake trail came off was when Donavon told me about that very trail years ago. I usually don't drive out that far on that road, maybe to the Signal Buttes area, but no further. I have always  wanted to check that trail out. Hey D, this new trail posted, could it be the Rho Ridge trail near Mount Lowe?

Go West young man!   D 2

My other guess would have been the Boundary Trail near Joyce Lake? Don

On the approach to Bull of the Woods Lookout. Bryon

Don wins.   D 2

Here's a trail that may take awhile to figure out. It is an abandoned trail in our district. This appears to be a ladder for a treestand right next to the trail. Can't miss it if your on the trail. Don  

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm going to need a hint.

Lot's of bear grass. Hmmm. Must be up near the divide? Lemiti area?   D 2

Sorry for my delay, but I was watching the Olympics. D 2 your right it's along a divide, but not the eastern side of the district. D 2, you and I have hiked on this one, but not at this point of the trail together. It's in one of the new wilderness areas. Don

No guesses? Well this trail was one of 2 or 3 major trails that crossed the district prior to roads being built. Because this trail got bypassed by roads early in FS history, there are 12' dia. trees growing in the tread in places. Also parts of this trail can now be seen on Google Earth, because of the higher resolution of their images. Don

Is it on the Fish Creek divide?

Not along the Fish Creek Divide, this trail transects the district from East-West not North-South. Don

Are you at the edge of a clear cut and where the trail takes a jog down to the road? D 2

That tree stand is about halfway between where your thinking and the trail junction to Salmon Lake. So you are corecto mundo  or correct in your assumption that this is the Plaza-Clackamas Lake Trail. The new Google images shows this trail in the rockslide west of the Cougar Creek Trail near the top of the ridge above the Abbott Road. Your turn there big D to post one.

I had once a copy of a letter from 1911 I believe, a report, from the District Ranger describing that year's Hundred Mile Ride. I can't find my copy anywhere. They ride that trail I think. They circle the District. It is a great read. Maybe Byron can find a copy through his contacts. It may also be in Southern Pacific papers as the primary purpose of the tour was studying the hydro resources. They scoped what is now Timothy Lake, they ditched the Salmon headlands as unsuitable, and they initiated a determination of what was wrong with the Collawash being so "flashy" as they put it and unsuitable as a hydro resource. I believe the speculation was that it was all the regular burning that goes on there prevented the retention of water. The Company offered to build the bridge for the trail across the Clackamas I believe. I think this was the suspension bridge there are some old pictures of. Which leads me to wonder when our fans are going to scope out our Southern Divide. I have been on part of it and it starts out pretty nicely near Nasty Rock Trail. Finding it on the Whetstone end is harder due to chest high rhododendrons.   I guess I better look for a picture.   D 2

What trail am I on? D 2

That looks like eastside to me - it looks a lot like the PCT/Skyline trail down near Pyramid Butte.

Red Lake Trail?

It was a real nice Autumn that year. You are both in the vicinity. But you both need to turn around and travel towards each other.   D 2