Rob Williams said I must excuse myself for this one - I know where it is. But, once this has been answered, I'm curious as to which trails you refer to.  The maps I've looked at don't have any trails near this.

But isn't that the idea? To know where it is?   Don2

Rob was with me on this particular trip

Donovan said On the new "what trail", was this taken perchance from a very near a road?

Yep, one that's been closed for many years

Something smells Fishy here!  Is this Surprise Lake?

Bam! I knew it would be easy, even being off any trails.    The 542 and 520 trails passed by a mile away or so. I had in my mind they were closer

It's not what you know, it's who you know!!   I'm going to start a new thread in honor of springtime.

I wondered if posting that Rob had been there would be a major hint