OK, I'll just take another wild guess - Rho Creek? "if you're alert you'll find a spring" – Fadeaway Springs?  + "They had to keep their guard up in those days" – Rho Ridge Guard Station?

Alright Bob, Corral Springs. And that's my final answer.

Donovan, I think your answer fits his clues the best. I was looking at the 1956 USGS and it shows that trail continuing on the other side of the river. Has anyone ever found any remnants? After comparing today's map to the '56 version it looks like the trail was rerouted or that the earlier map wasn't accurate.

Corral Springs is on my list of "to dos" this year.....

I have found those 56 maps to be kinda general as to trail locations. Someone has looked across the way. Sposenly 511 came down from Frazier to there.   D.

Donovan got it!  The pic is just before the final plunge into the Roaring River.  At first the trail is abused by ATVs but 1/2 way down it's almost abandoned.  Too bad all the Abbot camps got trenched, lots of good trails.

What trail was 511?

It's the one detailed in the Clackamas Lake book. When leaving Frazier Turn on the Serene Lake Trail there is a reroute in the first quarter mile and the 511 branches off while the trail tends to the left. Very faint. And the blazes in the Piss Fir heal over real subtle looking but you can get an eye for it.   I think Paul Turner chased it out once. Not sure.   Someone said for a trail built as fast as they did that it couldn't have had much in the way of tread work.   D

Oh, the one that supposedly runs up the south fork of roaring river?  I remember that one now.  Just forgot it was 511.  Here is the trip report from Paul and his adventure: http://www.portlandhikers.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3242 Well documented with maps and his route.  Interesting read.

He has a nice picture of the subtle blazes. I think he drifted too low is why he didn't see the trail after a while. The way to chase it down is with plenty of time and a little bit at a time. I will never forget how a member here found a segment I had been looking for for hours by taking a leak behind a tree, lifting his eyes to find himself gazing directly at a blaze. D.

Some of those really old blazes are really hard to tell if it was a blaze or just a branch that broke off the tree at some point and has healed up. But it is interesting how some things make themselves known at the oddest possible moments.

Here you go boyz n girz, what trail am I near?   D.

Is that upper Fanton TH?  

No, sorry Bob. It's not. Saddle up and head east.

Red Lake?

That wouldn't be from those black wolves from the northeast of our district? Don

Black Wolf didn't do it, his wife or slaves would have done the work.   D.

So is this the Anvil Lake Trail or what?? There are several of those stripped of bark cedars in the district, some Indian, some white. I have seen some near Austin Hot Springs on an abandoned trail in the area. Hell, I have stripped at least one or two back when I was making baskets out of alder bark and used the cedar for the lacing when I needed a basket to pick huckleberries. The alder will  pretty much die when stripped of it's bark, they grow like weeds anyway, but the cedar will usually make it although deminished for hundreds of years. Don

Black Wolf Meadows. Trail 724 you are right so you are the new contestant. D.

Here is a photo taken from a current trail and is in a wilderness area. Don