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Rob Williams
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09/18/2013 - 7:01 am
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I've been toying with this for a while, and I think I've gotten it mostly working.  The idea is to leverage the National Weather Service pinpoint forecasts to put a detailed forecast on each trail info page.

It is a lot of work to update each of the trail info pages to include this snippet, so I thought I would see if people thought it was useful - before I updated all the pages.

You can see what it looks like on the Hillockburn trail page:

http://www.trailadvocate.org/?page_id=94

The new snippet is at the bottom of the page and shows the forecast for the next 3 days, including any weather warnings and chance of precipitation.

Bryon Boyce
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09/18/2013 - 8:17 am
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I've been in the habit of looking the same info up for upcoming hikes, so when the outing is in the next couple of days this will help. You might consider adding a link to the full forecast page if possible so a longer range forecast could be found.

Keep up the good work, the sorts of improvements I've been seeing should serve to increase your readership.

Rob Williams
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09/18/2013 - 12:44 pm
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You can click on the "more info" link and it takes you to the NWS page with all the details, and a 7 day forecast.

I'm not really looking to increase readership, just looking to add things that are useful to people.

 

Thank you for the feedback.

Robert Koscik
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09/18/2013 - 1:09 pm
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Interesting!  How do you come up with this stuff?

I must say, I don't use the trail index a hell of a lot any more...most of my trips are either off-trail, or someplace I've already been.

I DO use the NWS pinpoint forecast a lot, usually accurate .0025% of the time - yet the interface is so precise!

How about a "forecasts" page that has certain high and low points in the district, kind of like Snotel?  You could have 10 or so locations, listed alphabetically or geographically.

Alder Flat

[3 day forecast]

Bull of the Woods L.O.

[3 day forecast]

ETC.

That way, we could have "one stop shopping" for all our weather needs in the district.

This may be a terrible idea, it just came to me and I'm runnin' with it.

Thanks for all you do to keep this "place" vibrant.

Rob Williams
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09/18/2013 - 8:24 pm
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Robert Koscik said
Interesting!  How do you come up with this stuff?

I must say, I don't use the trail index a hell of a lot any more...most of my trips are either off-trail, or someplace I've already been.

I DO use the NWS pinpoint forecast a lot, usually accurate .0025% of the time - yet the interface is so precise!

How about a "forecasts" page that has certain high and low points in the district, kind of like Snotel?  You could have 10 or so locations, listed alphabetically or geographically.

That way, we could have "one stop shopping" for all our weather needs in the district.

This may be a terrible idea, it just came to me and I'm runnin' with it.

Thanks for all you do to keep this "place" vibrant.

 

I don't know how I come up with this stuff - sometimes I just want a piece of info when I'm going hiking and find some resource to get it.  Sometimes it seems to kind of fit on the trail info page - if you were going to hike this trail, here is all the pertinent info you could want.

People probably get tired of me posting these "look at this new feature" posts.....

Yea, the forecasts aren't great, but they are as good as anything out there 0- I've actually found the NWS forecasts to be better than many, since they don't tend to sensationalize things - just the facts.

Even if I'm not going on an "official" trail, sometimes I'll refer to an official trail near where I'm going - if for nothing else than to find a map of the area easily.

I'm not too fond of the "regional" forecast page idea, but I'm open to it (it would be less work for me!) - lets take a vote!  Who likes the "regional" pinpoint weather forecasts idea vs the idea of putting a pinpoint forecast on each trail info page?

Robert Koscik
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You could do both, but maybe keep the pinpoints down to 5 locations.  It would give you a good general idea of what to expect in each part of the district.  The weather does vary quite a bit from west to east, and it would be interesting to see it all in one place.

Anyway just my 10 cents!  It's also pretty easy to click onto the NWS map, but that just shows you the weather for that pinpoint.  

Robert Koscik
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09/24/2013 - 9:17 pm
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Hey check this out, found it on the NWS website:

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_.....one=ORZ011

 

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We're very fortunate to have that weather station at Wanderer's peak. Nothing like getting the exact conditions before you've even left the house

Rob Williams
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Robert Koscik said
Hey check this out, found it on the NWS website:

http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/total_.....one=ORZ011

 

It looks like that is showing snotel data - it doesn't show Wanderer's peak.  But it is a different format than the snotel data I've seen in the past.

Thanks for posting that.

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Without goin to any links, I thought the nearest weather stations are:

 

Wanderers Peak

Red Box

Horse Creek

Rob Williams
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09/25/2013 - 6:25 pm
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There is also a snotel site at Peavine Ridge:

http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/n.....8;state=or

That and the Wanderers Peak and Red Box sites were the only ones I was aware of in district.  Looks like Horse Creek is a bit west of the district (but close), and there is another one south, near Detroit Lake called Boulder Creek:

http://www.wunderground.com/cg.....;sp=MBOFO3

There is also another one a bit east of the district on Mt Wilson:

http://www.wunderground.com/cg.....;sp=MWSFO3

And here is a map showing the whole district and you can see most of these sites (except the snotel):

http://www.wunderground.com/wu.....38;zoom=11

That page is also interesting since it shows radar and it will show areas that the radar shows as having rain (or snow).

And I can't forget to mention the Oregon snotel page - that is great for trying to figure out when things have melted out (or gotten too much snow to get to):

http://www.wcc.nrcs.usda.gov/s.....regon.html

I've actually been to the Red Box, Wanderers Peak and Peavine Ridge snotel sites.  Kind of interesting to see how they are all wired up.  All of them have been there for quite a while now - kind of looks like at least the second generation of equipment at each.  Red Box and Wanderers had an old wooden "shed" that used to house the equipment - now it is all out in the open on aluminum "masts".  The Peavine Ridge page says it was installed in 1980, but it has definitely undergone at least one upgrade since then.  Some of the equipment there looks abandoned for more accurate, modern stuff.

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