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PStrobel
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02/16/2021 - 4:48 pm
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I've been in touch w/ ODOT and the Forest Service. They are targeting end of spring/ early summer before the highway is opened back up. PGE says they will be ready to open up Hole in the Wall & Moore Creek as soon as ODOT is ready.

ODOT is only responsible for 224 (up to Ripplebrook). I've not heard anything concrete for where it turns to 46 and on to Detroit.

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Wow, that will be like 8 or 9 months.  They reopened 22 in less than a month.  But I can't say I'm surprised.  I wonder if/when road 45 will reopen - either the Hillockburn end or the end by 224 (the one that has been closed since the 36 pit fire).

Thanks for the info.

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OR 224 Remains Closed for Fast, Safe Recovery

 
Feb 17, 2021

 

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MHNF has added this statement to their website:

Hwy. 224 is CLOSED just past Promontory Park probably until mid-summer 2021. The Hwy 224/FR 46 corridor experienced many areas of high fire intensity and has many areas full of hazard trees and hillsides likely to give way.

Ugh!

Rob Williams
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One glimmer of hope I saw is that the Olallie Lake resort is planning to open, although much later than normal.  According to their website, they are planning to open July 2nd:

https://www.olallielakeresort.com/

That would imply that they expect the roads to Olallie to be open by then.

My fear is that 224 will re-open but they won't have done anything on 46 so you will be stopped at Ripplebrook.  I guess time will tell.  It appears we have a while longer to wait.....

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The news about Olallie is encouraging.

The Forest Service, ODOT & PGE are scheduled to present at an Estacada City Council workshop this evening at 6:00. You can watch via Zoom or wait for the replay on YouTube.

Zoom Info: https://www.cityofestacada.org/bc-citycouncil/page/city-council-workshop-virtual-8

Rob Williams
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PStrobel said
The news about Olallie is encouraging.

The Forest Service, ODOT & PGE are scheduled to present at an Estacada City Council workshop this evening at 6:00. You can watch via Zoom or wait for the replay on YouTube.

Zoom Info: https://www.cityofestacada.org/bc-citycouncil/page/city-council-workshop-virtual-8  

I watched this last night and I have to say it was very depressing.  It certainly does sound like the north end of the 46 road will not reopen at all in 2021, which means a very short hiking season for almost all the trails in the Clackamas district AND a VERY, VERY long detour to get to anything.

I wish there would be an "at your own risk" type of opening, but they seem intent on not allowing ANY access to ANY area until they deem it as safe as the local Fred Meyer.

I really didn't hear ANY good news at all......

If you were able to get the presentation from the USFS, it would be great if you could upload it.  There were some interesting photos in there that I had not seen before.

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It's on youtube now

kirk
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Found this on FB this morning:
 
Oregon Department of Transportation

is continuing work on State Hwy 224 to assess hazard trees killed or weakened by the Riverside Fire. They estimate the highway will re-open to Ripplebrook in mid-summer.

How do they make those assessments? Certified arborists follow FEMA criteria & Forest Service guidelines to determine if a tree is a “hazard tree.” Hazard trees are dead or dying trees that will present an eminent threat to the traveling public within a five year time-frame.
Meet one of the arborists in the video:
PStrobel
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I sat in on a meeting with ODOT, Forest Service, PGE, Clackamas Co Tourism, Mt Hood Tourism, and several river outfitters. The meeting was recorded by the city and should be on YouTube soon. 

 

Key Points:

1. ODOT says they do not plan to open the highway this year. When pressed on that, they conceded and said at least not through the summer.

2. ODOT agreed to consider 'sequencing' - working on the part of the river up to some of the popular spots for rafters/kayakers to put in. They said they hope to get back to us in about two weeks.

3. The Forest Service has a priority of opening areas not in the 'burn perimeter'. Areas include La Dee Flats and Timothy Lake. No solid timeframe given. But they did site that the current closure ends on May 27. 

Lots of pushback from the whitewater folks. Several have been up there doing some work for PGE. They pointed out that trees have already been cleared up to the Moore Creek/ Hole in the Wall areas. And pointing out that the Forest Service and ODOT did not shut things down this tightly after Pit 36.

ODOT said they would review and get back to us. The Forest Service said they understand the impact to our community and businesses and are making every effort to open safely.

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Thank you for the update.

Every time I hear an update it gets worse and worse.  First it was spring, then it was spring to summer, then it was mid summer and now it is fall or maybe not at all until next year?  They opened up highway 22 in a few weeks!  We are now at 7 months of closure for 224.

Even though I disagree with keeping the burn perimeter closed indefinitely, keeping 46 closed past Ripplebrook closes a HUGE number of trails, including all of BOTW which just seems incredibly wrong to me.  The Forest Service wants to make it "safe", which it isn't.  It never has been, and trying to say it is "safe" is just wrong.  There is inherent danger in heading out into the woods, even before the burn, and you can't mitigate that no matter how hard you try.

I will be interesting to hear the discussions - please post the YouTube link when it is available.

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Well, ODOT may have made up their mind - this article came out yesterday:

https://www.oregonlive.com/clackamascounty/2021/04/incredibly-popular-stretch-of-oregon-river-wont-reopen-this-summer-after-wildfire-damage.html

Our own Pete Giordano said it very well:

“Their standard of safety is excessive,” he said. “It’s like they’re trying to make it perfect by removing every possible hazard tree. But that road has never been perfect. There has always been issues like rocks on that highway and that was just part of the deal when you drove up there. You were prepared for it and accepted it.”

I don't know what else can be done - it's like someone REALLY doesn't want anyone up there and doesn't care about the economic damage it is causing to a variety of folks.

Now they aren't committing to any timeline and it "may" reopen in the fall.  I won't hold my breath.

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