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Plaza Trail
Rob Williams
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04/04/2013 - 7:09 pm
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OK, more historic map questions......The 1966 Metsker map shows the Plaza trail continuing south of the 4610 road and then it appears to turn into the fabled 508/509 trail that goes along the Roaring River (which no one seems to be able to find).

Has anyone looked for the Plaza trail south of 4610?

Donovan
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04/04/2013 - 8:57 pm
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Isn't that Plaza Creek trail 506?

http://www.trailadvocate.org/?.....age_id=100

 

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I had seen cut logs along the bench above the Roaring River on the Cougar Creek Trail heading west towards Plaza Creek, but haven't had the time to follow it out. Not too many people venture off into the Roaring River Wilderness in this area for lack of established trails.

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Rob Williams
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Donovan said
Isn't that Plaza Creek trail 506?

http://www.trailadvocate.org/?.....age_id=100

 

I guess you are correct!  I don't know what threw me, maybe I just wasn't looking close enough - Since the lower section of the Plaza Creek trail is really pretty much unknown, I guess the sharp turn east threw me a bit.  Also, all the "Plaza xxx" trails are rather confusing (Plaza trail, Plaza Creek trail, Plaza Lake trail).  Where is this "Plaza" all this stuff is named for?

Donald Presley said
I had seen cut logs along the bench above the Roaring River on the Cougar Creek Trail heading west towards Plaza Creek, but haven't had the time to follow it out. Not too many people venture off into the Roaring River Wilderness in this area for lack of established trails

Not only that, it is a LONG ways down into that canyon!  And the trip back up is difficult and tiring!

Donovan
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04/05/2013 - 8:30 am
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My theory on the Plaza Creek Trail is that it turned east well above the river. But campers dove off it and created a "way" down to the creek for fishing. I have heard it refered to by older folks as a fisherman's trail.

So that could explain why explorers loose it on the way down. 

Myself, I have only been able to follow tread part way.

 

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04/10/2013 - 10:11 pm
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About 1,000 years ago Don1 and I cleared it down pretty low, probably 1/4 mile to the river.  It gets really open and brushy down there.  It's a light trail all the way down too, not much tread in new growth.

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In 2011, Kirk and I went down as far as we could - the point at which the trail appeared to meet the creek (less than a half mile from the river) we pretty much lost it.  We looked around quite a bit, but didn't seen any obvious tread at that point.  Up until there, it wasn't too hard to follow.

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Yeah you guys were too far west and close to the creek.  The trail headed more easterly as it got towards the bottom, there's kinda a flat in that area.  There is a 1950s Oregonian article that Paul posted that shows the trails pretty accurately.

That area was pretty well burnt by the 30s, so the trails must have been wide open at that point. 

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