LOTS of snow has melted in the last 2-3 weeks. I think your guess of 4500-5000' is probably pretty realistic. I was at 4000' last weekend and the only snow I saw was a small bit in a heavily shaded south facing area. It was about 6" deep, but two weeks prior it was probably 24" deep or more. I'm guessing that snow is probably almost gone by now (if not completely gone). I would expect you would see some above 4500', but probably not a whole lot.
If you do venture out, please post your findings.
Folks probably already know this but I was up at Elk Lake 2 weekends ago. We had snow on the road in the morning and all gone by the time we got back there in the early evening. FS46 was open and not really any sign of snow anywhere there. Hiked a bit on the trail around the bottom falls and no snow there either.
I have had two reports on Bull Trails.
The first is that the 7020 road to the Whetstone trailhead is washed out, so 7030 is the way to go. Trails sawed out across the top and down towards Opal Creek.
The second is that the road is clear to Bull of the Woods trail head but there is snow on the trail.
I went up to Schreiner, from Pansy Basin last Sunday. Only snow encountered was up high, north side of the ridge, especially above Big Slide Lake. No snow up to the Lookout. No snow on the ridge crest to Schreiner. The burn is a very interesting place to travel through, although slow going. Tagged Big Slide Mountain, and Knob Peak on the way.
Would be great to bring the trail back, from Big Slide to Schreiner, but WOW!, what a chore it would be.
Thanks for the report, Karl. Still on my list to do is to get up to Schriener Peak. I had tried to do it last year, but poor weather turned me back early. I hope I can make the trek this year.
I assume the slow going is because of downed trees? It seems like the burned area would be easier to get through since there isn't a bunch of brush to push through anymore. What I've heard is there is really no trace of the original trail left - the best path is to just follow the ridges up to Schreiner.
Surprising how little snow there is for mid June.
I went up Schriener last July and the going was slow. Downed trees and some scrambling are the main reasons. I didn't think there were too many downed trees but that will change as the snags continue to fall and accumulate year after year. Thick brush isn't an issue.
There is no trace of a trail anywhere from leaving the trail just east of Big Slide Mt. above Lake Lenore all the way to Schreiner's summit. More or less following the ridgeline for its entirety is the best way. Views are outstanding much of the route. Don't forget to sign the register located inside the cairn on the summit! On average, looks like only two people a year sign it so its a lonely high point.
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